dave cormier 4:01
:)
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dave cormier 4:02
feel free to include comments or questions in the chat
if we can't get to them today... we'll carry them over to tomorrow 4:02
siavogel 4:03
I like that a lot for the moment... An overview..
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dave cormier 4:05
hey folks :)
brainysmurf 4:06
sorry Howard - i don't see a list on your screen?
Linda 1 4:06
we cannot see whiteboard
Renaud Gagné 4:06
What are the role you are looking for again?
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Beth Wellman 4:06
I only see the opening page
brainysmurf 4:06
i see pic of howard and email address
Kate Robbins 4:06
feedbacj
hipbone (Charles Cameron) 4:06
it was back oine page
Kate Robbins 4:06
no
Ben 4:06
I had to press the back on the slides to find it
Jaapsoft 4:06
lots of pages I see
Kate Robbins 4:06
I have the I don't see
brainysmurf 4:06
thx @ben!
@injenuity 4:06
I think it's set so everyone can move slides on their own
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ljp 4:07
I don't see any change
JGA 4:07
Use the back arrow to locate the sign up page.
Kate Robbins 4:07
oh
ok 4:07
Linda 1 4:07
yes
siavogel 4:07
yes.
@injenuity 4:07
you got it
dave cormier 4:07
yup
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Una Daly OCW Consortium 4:07
yes
Kate Robbins 4:08
me
I'm having trouble with the whiteboard 4:08
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dave cormier 4:08
hi Kate
Kate Robbins 4:08
Kate
I'll do the URL 4:08
dave cormier 4:08
just try again :)
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@injenuity 4:08
you can right click on the text and look at "object explorer" to see who put stuff there
dave cormier 4:08
It's cool kate
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dave cormier 4:08
we've got you down for doing the URLs
Kate Robbins 4:08
pseww:)
@dave, thanks 4:08
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dave cormier 4:09
@kate all good :)
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dave cormier 4:09
I like the tone we're starting on here... our responsibility to the discourse of social media
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brainysmurf 4:10
@dave agree - a bit like being part of beta-testing for a new game, perhaps? making time to experiment and shape how something works?
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dave cormier 4:10
I didn't mean simple in a bad way :)
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brainysmurf 4:12
maybe we need to pay attention to how/when we pay attention and not?
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@injenuity 4:13
would be interesting to know in this audience how many people have how many other tabs/apps/etc. open right now
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JGA 4:13
2 screens and a word doc for creating notes for the mindmap...
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brainysmurf 4:13
great read: http://www.amazon.ca/Myth-Multitasking-Doing-Gets-Nothing/dp/0470372257
Brenda Kaulback 4:13
some tabs open and also my notebook
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Jaapsoft 4:13
twitter, blog etc
brainysmurf 4:14
@injenuity - word doc open for notes
gjoyce 4:14
Two tabs and Evernote
@injenuity 4:14
2 mobile devices, 3 google docs, twitter, wikispaces, email
ljp 4:14
I have email open. My attention depends on what is being said and how interesting the chat is
brainysmurf 4:14
and google tab for searching
siavogel 4:14
use my iPad for notes now.
Kate Robbins 4:15
fascinating
JGA 4:15
he was synthesizing and not multitasking...isn't there a difference?
Kate Robbins 4:15
supporting his own learning
DougBreitbart 4:15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_multitasking
brainysmurf 4:15
@jga - he was switch-tasking according to crenshaw (see link above)
Kate Robbins 4:15
like underlining your notes
dave cormier 4:15
Reminds me of someone once explaining that the only way they could present to geeks was to give them silly putty
siavogel 4:16
In my courses I always tell them I know they will do other things and they laugh.. They are collegues.
DougBreitbart 4:16
http://gse.buffalo.edu/fas/shuell/cep564/metacog.htm
Henrik Steen Jensen 4:16
well, even this chat is a challenge to solo attention, isn't it?
JGA 4:16
Task switching within the same cognitive challenge of connecting to the single task? Wasn't use of two tools for one task a good example of intention?
dave cormier 4:17
@henrik no kidding.
Ben 4:17
becoming aware of where your attention is focused
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DougBreitbart 4:18
Expanding what "attention" requires or means. . .
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brainysmurf 4:18
i seem to process visual much easier/faster than auditory so nice to "see" everything (howard speaking, chat, whiteboard)
@injenuity 4:18
I often share the 5 laptop idea with profs
Howard Rheingold 4:18
http://mooc.wikispaces.com/rheingold
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Saffron 4:20
mothers would concede to multi-tasking's effectiveness
hipbone (Charles Cameron) 4:20
pilots are using john boyd's OODA loop
brainysmurf 4:20
my understanding: can multi-task using different parts of brain (seeing and hearing at same time) but very difficult/impossible to use same part of brain for two tasks?
JGA 4:20
The ratio of shared cognitive focus within the switched-tasks must have impact on overall attention capacity...Just a thought.
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dave cormier 4:21
I wonder if someone can gather up all the theory pieces that people have put together here
hipbone (Charles Cameron) 4:21
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop
michael wilson was a master exponent of OODA 4:21
siavogel 4:22
There are a lot of myths about the brain is n't so?
brainysmurf 4:22
@howard - great intuition and legitimate choice, yes! :)
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Howard Rheingold 4:23
netvibes
Ben 4:23
http://www.netvibes.com/en
DougBreitbart 4:23
Some Tools Pomodoro Technique - http://www.pomodorotechnique.com/
GTD 4:24
http://www.davidco.com/about-gtd 4:24
JGA 4:24
infotention tip...open every screen during the talk and just leave them open for later review...
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brainysmurf 4:24
@jga - i do that when reviewing The Daily
Joe Dillon 4:24
Who's strategy for changing habits?
Renaud Gagné 4:25
What do you think about writing your goals of the day the night before?
siavogel 4:25
@jga Thats, what I am doing...
Howard Rheingold 4:25
apnea
brainysmurf 4:25
http://lindastone.net/2009/11/30/diagnosis-email-apnea/
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DougBreitbart 4:26
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-email-apnea.htm
brainysmurf 4:26
Alt+Tab most important keyboard function I use in a day (switch between open windows). 2nd most impt: copy/paste :)
DougBreitbart 4:29
Howard on Crap Detection http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxmG6VeNSuQ
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Joe Dillon 4:30
"If I can't find an author, I turn my credibility meter back."
DougBreitbart 4:32
A Crap Detection test http://librariesandtransliteracy.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/crap-detection-a-21st-century-literacy/
dave cormier 4:32
poor octopus
Gerry 4:32
@injenuity You had those at your old place, didn't you?
@injenuity 4:33
I ate the octopus. with jam.
brainysmurf 4:33
i bet we could google a recipe for that @injenuity :)
siavogel 4:33
I hope only the tree octopus @injenuity :-)
@injenuity 4:33
@brainysmurf secret is in the parboiling
JGA 4:34
Teaching crap detection begins with teaching students facts not can, but should be scrutinized. In many cultures, questioning text is disrespectful. So crap detection is a culturally bound concept.
dave cormier 4:34
i have george to annoy me
brainysmurf 4:34
http://yongmingfood.en.alibaba.com/product/439517618-210315574/octopus_jam.html
Tom Reeves 4:34
When I was in Catholic School in the '50s, Sister Rita Alberta told us that we should develop a good crap detector! She was ahead of her time.
brainysmurf 4:34
@jga great point!
@injenuity 4:34
but we need to teach students to also question the teachers and authorities
DougBreitbart 4:34
today more than ever
@injenuity 4:34
and especially to make their own informed choices about using web services, reading ToS, etc.
JGA 4:34
@brainysmurf...thanks.
brainysmurf 4:35
same @ work about questioning authority
Ben 4:35
@brainysmurf should I include the octupus jam site in the list of links?
dave cormier 4:35
1. Attention 2. Crap detection 3. Participation
brainysmurf 4:35
@ben as you wish lol
DougBreitbart 4:36
Smart Mobs http://www.smartmobs.com/
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DougBreitbart 4:37
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_mob
@injenuity 4:38
what about after that? I went up that slope and then back down
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brainysmurf 4:38
would be interesting to map this against digital bloom's
dave cormier 4:38
dog in the house.
carol yeager 4:39
:-)
dave cormier 4:39
that's kind of amazing timing
@injenuity 4:39
i don't do curation any more
siavogel 4:39
timing, great...
JGA 4:39
Are the number of hours on task (computer tech) or learning within a culture of inquiry more significant to inventors of world changing tech?
CogDog 4:39
i heard a dog scratch across the net
brainysmurf 4:39
@dave didn't know telepathy was on collaboration curve! :)
Jaapsoft 4:39
:
Beth Wellman 4:39
did someone get the url for the graphic? i missed it...
Cath 4:40
http://www.noodletools.com/debbie/literacies/
dave cormier 4:41
@JGA hours on task are necessary no matter what i think
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JGA 4:42
genious like yourself? Nah...;-)
George Hobson 4:42
"A person who contributes thinks of themselves differently from those who only consume"
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dave cormier 4:42
how... that should have been ... "necessary in any case"
brainysmurf 4:42
@beth this one? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ross/541707092/sizes/z/in/photostream
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brainysmurf 4:43
@george hobson - like that
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Beth Wellman 4:43
@brainysmurf ty!!
JGA 4:43
I want to compliment Howard on this point...I didn't consider it until I read the blog this afternoon. Very positive and motiavating..thanks.
CogDog 4:43
Carr would love this environment ;-) no distractions at all
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Kate Robbins 4:44
agree
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Jaapsoft 4:44
http://ross.typepad.com/blog/2006/04/power_law_of_pa.html
ross typepad is that graphics 4:45
DougBreitbart 4:45
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/handle-buy-box/ref=dp_start-bbf_1_glance - Carr book
brainysmurf 4:45
@beth you're very welcome - i had caught it in a screenshot and manually typed it back here :)
JGA 4:45
Does a football player running for a goal using both his hands and feet multitasking? Why isn't the use of two tools multitasking online?
dave cormier 4:45
@JGA what about driving a car.
DougBreitbart 4:45
http://oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/articles/architecture_of_participation.html
Architecture of Participation 4:46
Joe Dillon 4:46
http://www.amazon.com/Cooking-Oxford-University-Classic-Beginner/dp/0194220745
dave cormier 4:46
remember that the internet is full of people.
brainysmurf 4:46
@dave lol good one
Howard Rheingold 4:46
Arthur Himmelman
Jaapsoft 4:46
the internet is people
DougBreitbart 4:47
Himmelman http://blueoxen.net/wiki/Arthur_Himmelman
dave cormier 4:47
Anyone wanna list their communities?
Edtechtalk!!! 4:47
Howard Rheingold 4:48
http://www.rheingold.com/vc/book/
carol yeager 4:48
Yeah, Edtechtalk
JGA 4:48
edtalk, Edtechtalk, lrnchat, Change11, Webheads....
Howard Rheingold 4:49
http://www.rheingold.com/electricminds/html/vcc_landing.html
carol yeager 4:49
Not virtual, very real and supportive
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dave cormier 4:49
it's like tryiing to "create" a community
not easy... or not possible 4:49
carol yeager 4:49
ok, agreed
Howard Rheingold 4:49
folding.stanford.edu
dave cormier 4:49
create the ecosystem...
fertilizer 4:49
etc... 4:50
brainysmurf 4:50
@dave agree - 'creating' community makes me a bit nauseous...colleagues still trying to do it.
JGA 4:50
What basic principles of behaviorism apply to building a community?
dave cormier 4:50
"build it and people will not pay attention to you unless they have a really strong reason to" that's awesome.
JGA 4:50
motivation, reward, punishment, postive reinforcement...
brainysmurf 4:50
@dave - similar to whether we can motivate/engage others...uh oh I best not go there!
DougBreitbart 4:50
gamification
hipbone (Charles Cameron) 4:50
ugh, doug
lol 4:51
DougBreitbart 4:51
yeah I know
Howard Rheingold 4:51
http://www.ted.com/talks/howard_rheingold_on_collaboration.html
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brainysmurf 4:52
http://employeeengagement.ning.com/profiles/blogs/what-s-up-with-gamification-and-employee-engagement
kylemackie - university of guelph 4:53
let me tell you what I had for lunch...
Sheena 4:53
thank you for that link Brainy :)
brainysmurf 4:53
@sheena my pleasure - from a colleague this morning, seemed relevant :)
i feel like I'd have to wiki/google each of these terms... 4:54
Dr. Rafael A. Espinoza Pizarro 4:55
teacher preparation programs must change completly with all this panorama decrib
e 4:55
siavogel 4:55
I am 62 now and find it very exciting to learn and live with all this possibillities and work with collegues to reach slowly an other way to teach in higher education.
brainysmurf 4:55
@dr. rafael agree!
dave cormier 4:55
questions for Howard?
Dr. Rafael A. Espinoza Pizarro 4:55
here in Costa -rica we are behind
Tom Reeves 4:56
Kindle version of book?
Joe Dillon 4:56
@dr rafael - those who prepare teachers have to adapt how they learn before the programs will change meaningfully.
brainysmurf 4:56
@joe great point!
dave cormier 4:56
attack the whitebaord!
or uh... the whiteboard 4:56
siavogel 4:56
Also an ebook-version?
carol yeager 4:56
@Joe ... thx for that point
Beth Wellman 4:57
@dr raphael - total agreement. where is the motivation for the teacher prep programs to change going to come from?
Dr. Rafael A. Espinoza Pizarro 4:58
yes I agree with your question
but in academia we are very traditional too 4:58
so as university instructor i need to change some practices 4:59
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brainysmurf 4:59
pressure on govt's to change curriculum and delivery requirements?
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Joe Dillon 5:00
@dr rafael As I take grad classes in ed, I hope to push instructors to encourage Twitter participation, blogs in place of papers, etc...Teachers and prospective teachers need to push this change.
Jaapsoft 5:00
teachers should take resposibility and do it
brainysmurf 5:00
@howard - right good point!
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Saffron 5:01
@JaafSoft - are you a teacher?
carol yeager 5:01
@Howard ... really a good modeling technique for change
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Jaapsoft 5:01
yes i a was (retired)
brainysmurf 5:01
@howard - you're right, some stuff will change at grassroots but not widespread
Howard Rheingold 5:01
http://dmlcentral.net/blog/3663
Sheena 5:02
the top should be attentive to the needs and ideas on the bottom ;)
brainysmurf 5:02
time and money blocks seem to stifle risk - but could equally be great oppty to take new risks
@dave what is tomorrow? 5:02
Howard Rheingold 5:02
11 AM Pacific tomorrow -- same time -- freewheeling discussion
siavogel 5:03
In 3 years there were a lot changes in our institute... I will just go on...
Ben 5:03
doc with all links from session: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hMRKBWWoBBbjCPJkMwpLuqWh1B596cenIghIQYADmhc/edit
dave cormier 5:03
it's certainly where i've learned to play guitar
Beth Wellman 5:03
can we frame the risk as staying put so making these changes is the least risky
DougBreitbart 5:04
http://www.amazon.com/New-Culture-Learning-Cultivating-Imagination/dp/1456458884
Kate Robbins 5:04
that's the first place I go for tutorials now
youtube 5:04
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brainysmurf 5:04
@beth not sure i understand?
carol yeager 5:05
Education does not always =learning!
JGA 5:05
I am the eternal optimist...I think tech will not only shape culture, it will contribute to the positive changes that will happen...in 2012...
brainysmurf 5:05
thx all great one - happy new year!
Tom Reeves 5:05
tHANK yOU hOWARD
Joe Dillon 5:05
Thanks!
Kate Robbins 5:05
I have a quick ? re: the URL collection
Howard Rheingold 5:05
My pleasure
Francisco Reis 5:05
Thanks! I'll watch the TED!
Kate Robbins 5:05
feedback
Jaapsoft 5:05
thank you
carol yeager 5:05
Thank you Change 11 and Howard
Kate Robbins 5:05
echo
JGA 5:05
Good night....
Brenda Kaulback 5:05
Thank you
Beth Wellman 5:05
institutions/teachers tend towards the least risky.....
Sheena 5:05
thank you